Spam Is Not Vegan
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Some people have been spamming the Soapbox. Sample comments are below…
On religion and life’s purpose:
“what i find funny is that mostly every one on this blog is more concernd with animals that god himself put on this earth for us to use and i wont to see any one of you show me if any of the pracices that we use today are inhumanen.”
Watch a video. You’ll see what slaughtering practices are inhumane.
Warning: disturbing images.
The spammer wrote about slaughtering horses:
“its been study that “wild” band of horse have done more dameage to the land the a hured of cows. if horse sluter plants were opened back up the would be less of a problem. also the sluter house across the borders are alot less human then the usda horses plant in america.”
On slaughtering turkeys:
“we cant help it or stop it thats just what they were made for, turkeys breeding has been so perfected and theyve been designed to gain so much weight that now if you dont harvest them soon enough their legs will break. do you really want that for them?”
It’s a little too easy to mock. Easy and cruel, like shooting fish in a barrel or hogs in a canned hunt. Or… “harvesting” turkeys bred by humans to become too fat to be able to stand up. (More about turkeys here)
Warning: graphic images.
Then there’s my personal favorite, the omni purity troll:
“Based on the definition of a vegan, it is highly impossible to dispose all animal products from your ‘life’. The gum that she chews is made from animal by products. The pharmaceuticles that not only she takes but everybody else as well to maintain a healthy body is made from animal by products. For example, the insulin used by diabetics and rennet that allows lactose intolerant people to digest milk are all made from animal by products.”
We live in an omnivorous world and there are animal products all around us. True. However, many vegans have found alternatives (check out vegan stores). And others have decided where to draw their lines (after food before medicine, based on need and availability). Veganism isn’t about purity. It’s about abstaining from using animal products as much as possible. It’s about recognizing that our choices affect living, sentient beings so we ought to choose wisely and only harm others when it’s truly unavoidable (for example in self-defense).
This kind of purity troll tries to point out how “hard” it is to be vegan and then reasons that no one ought to try to live a cruelty-free life in such a cruel world. This kind of reasoning, is obviously flawed, but strangely appealing to many people. They see veganism as all or nothing and if they can’t envision going all the way, why bother taking one step? Newsflash: you can choose to do something or you can choose to do nothing. You can be a pawn, a cog, a nothing. Or you can resist.
Ironically, the spamming occured while I wrote the discrimination post. Yes, vegans get harassed. Cyber-bullying is real and it happens to all kinds of people, particularly to people with unpopular opinions, like vegans. I get at least a couple hate-emails a day. I delete them and move on, but let me tell you, there’s a GOOD reason my response to California’s Researcher Protection Act of 2008, was this: “why not make a law like this protect ALL people, not just vivisectors?” Harassment is harassment. Hate is hate. Violence is violence.
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Edit: The original version of this article listed the spammers’ IP address. Since it appears to come from a “public” place, the other users shouldn’t be penalized by a few spammers. That’s why the IP address has been removed from the article.
OrgName: Oregon Public Education Network
OrgID: ORPN
Address: Marylhurst Campus, Hwy 43
Address: PO Box 216
City: Marylhurst
StateProv: OR
PostalCode: 97036-0216
Country: US
NetRange: 198.236.0.0 – 198.237.255.255
CIDR: 198.236.0.0/15
NetName: OPEN-BLOCK1
NetHandle: NET-198-236-0-0-1
Parent: NET-198-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS1.K12.OR.US
NameServer: NS1.NERO.NET
NameServer: ARIZONA.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1993-09-13
Updated: 2008-02-12
RTechHandle: GS1124-ARIN
RTechName: Scheel, Gary
RTechPhone: +1-503-675-4077
RTechEmail: gscheel@clackesd.k12.or.us
OrgTechHandle: GS1124-ARIN
OrgTechName: Scheel, Gary
OrgTechPhone: +1-503-675-4077
OrgTechEmail: gscheel@clackesd.k12.or.us
I get these sorts of nasty comments (and much worse) often as well, which is interesting considering that I usually don’t talk about the issues and mainly just write about food. Even just talking about vegan food pisses some people off, they take it as a personal attack. Mostly I delete them, sometimes I ridicule them when they were clearly written by an idiot. I love how your particular brand of clueless spammer attempts to sound knowledgeable and intelligent while at the same time has no clue that the word slaughter is not spelled “sluter”. Their argument for killing turkeys is one of the most moronic “defenses” I’ve ever heard yet. It’s so discouraging to realize just how stupid and backwards so many people still are, blinded by religion and stunted by lack of education and inbred narrow mindedness.
~ Recent blog post: Come on Doomie’s make it hurt so good… ~
I am sorry that you get spammed so much, I don’t see why people can’t just read your blog instead of writing these silly comments. If they looked at the last 10 posts they could actually learn about something rather than just reacting.
OrgName: Oregon Public Education Network
OrgID: ORPN
Address: Marylhurst Campus, Hwy 43
Address: PO Box 216
City: Marylhurst
StateProv: OR
PostalCode: 97036-0216
Country: US
NetRange: 198.236.0.0 – 198.237.255.255
CIDR: 198.236.0.0/15
NetName: OPEN-BLOCK1
NetHandle: NET-198-236-0-0-1
Parent: NET-198-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: DNS1.K12.OR.US
NameServer: NS1.NERO.NET
NameServer: ARIZONA.EDU
Comment:
RegDate: 1993-09-13
Updated: 2008-02-12
RTechHandle: GS1124-ARIN
RTechName: Scheel, Gary
RTechPhone: +1-503-675-4077
RTechEmail: gscheel@clackesd.k12.or.us
OrgTechHandle: GS1124-ARIN
OrgTechName: Scheel, Gary
OrgTechPhone: +1-503-675-4077
OrgTechEmail: gscheel@clackesd.k12.or.us
More info:
Name: Scheel, Gary
Handle: GS1124-ARIN
Company: Clackamas Education Service District
Address: 13455 SE 97th Ave.
City: Clackamas
StateProv: OR
PostalCode: 97015-8662
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate: 1992-05-20
Updated: 2008-02-12
Phone: +1-503-675-4077 (Office)
Phone: +1-503-675-4200 (Fax)
Email: gscheel@clackesd.k12.or.us
Jamie and tofu,
Likely high school or college students using a computer lab?
It’s probably against school policy to use the computers to harass or spam. Hmmm…
It’s probably against school policy to use the computers to harass or spam. Hmmm…
Do it. You know you wanna.
I just discovered this blog a few weeks ago, and I have one complaint. The interface seems weird. I feel like there are a bunch of posts I’m missing. You don’t seem to have a traditional archive.
veganprimate, you’re right, it’s different. It’s not meant to be a “blog” as in the traditional sense of a blog. It’s more of a collection of essays and resources. I’ve been planning to create a better archive and add/change some other features, but stuff keeps coming up. I’m not a coder so that stuff is always lower on my priority list that just writing stuff. Sorry if it’s not to your liking. Till things change, just use the search function in the upper right to find stuff