Comments on: On Insincerity And Psychopath-sadism http://www.vegansoapbox.com/on-insincerity-and-psychopath-sadism/ vegan theory, vegan activism, vegan video, vegan food and vegan resources for vegans, vegetarians, animal rights activists, animal liberationists, and abolitionists Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:55:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Alex http://www.vegansoapbox.com/on-insincerity-and-psychopath-sadism/comment-page-1/#comment-3431 Alex Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:25:31 +0000 http://www.vegansoapbox.com/?p=2231#comment-3431 What does it say about someone who can laugh at pain and misery? <abbr><em>~ Recent blog post: <a href="http://www.not-quiteright.net/tvg/2009/01/that-vegan-girl.html" rel="nofollow">That Vegan Girl</a> ~</abbr></em> What does it say about someone who can laugh at pain and misery?

~ Recent blog post: That Vegan Girl ~

]]> By: Matt http://www.vegansoapbox.com/on-insincerity-and-psychopath-sadism/comment-page-1/#comment-3421 Matt Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:10:20 +0000 http://www.vegansoapbox.com/?p=2231#comment-3421 Laughter is a defence mechanism. If you can make light of something then you make it seem less important. If cruelty to animals isn't important than it doesn't make one feel as guilty for taking part in it. Jokes and laughter make meat eaters feel less guilty about the suffering they cause. Laughter is a defence mechanism. If you can make light of something then you make it seem less important. If cruelty to animals isn’t important than it doesn’t make one feel as guilty for taking part in it. Jokes and laughter make meat eaters feel less guilty about the suffering they cause.

]]> By: Eccentric Vegan http://www.vegansoapbox.com/on-insincerity-and-psychopath-sadism/comment-page-1/#comment-3414 Eccentric Vegan Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:52:16 +0000 http://www.vegansoapbox.com/?p=2231#comment-3414 In my experience, people who act like that don't target strangers. They seem to poke fun at the vegetarian or vegan friend, not so much the person who is leafletting. So that surprises me, Antoine. I guess we've just had different experiences. Anyway, whenever it's happened to me, I avoid the person. I don't laugh or engage their insults, I just ignore them and avoid them in the future. I know it might make sense to have a conversation with them because so many overtly mean meat-eaters are really just wannabe vegans, but I simply can't stand that behavior. It makes me sick and I don't want to be around people like that. In my experience, people who act like that don’t target strangers. They seem to poke fun at the vegetarian or vegan friend, not so much the person who is leafletting. So that surprises me, Antoine. I guess we’ve just had different experiences.

Anyway, whenever it’s happened to me, I avoid the person. I don’t laugh or engage their insults, I just ignore them and avoid them in the future. I know it might make sense to have a conversation with them because so many overtly mean meat-eaters are really just wannabe vegans, but I simply can’t stand that behavior. It makes me sick and I don’t want to be around people like that.

]]> By: Antoine http://www.vegansoapbox.com/on-insincerity-and-psychopath-sadism/comment-page-1/#comment-3411 Antoine Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:24:08 +0000 http://www.vegansoapbox.com/?p=2231#comment-3411 Beautifully explored. I have often thought on this topic, because I often found myself unable to respond (apart from in an insulting way) to people who react in this way, when I do vegan outreach, tabling or demos. And so usually I ignore them, or "let them get away with it" and feel as if somehow I am letting them win. I think next time rather than reacting within myself, I will instead focus on the joker and what it means about his character, and instead focus on him. respond to the joke with pity and sadness for the joker. I'll see if it is more effective. Beautifully explored.
I have often thought on this topic, because I often found myself unable to respond (apart from in an insulting way) to people who react in this way, when I do vegan outreach, tabling or demos.
And so usually I ignore them, or “let them get away with it” and feel as if somehow I am letting them win.
I think next time rather than reacting within myself, I will instead focus on the joker and what it means about his character, and instead focus on him.
respond to the joke with pity and sadness for the joker.
I’ll see if it is more effective.

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