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		<title>By: Um</title>
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		<dc:creator>Um</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 23:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vegas Vegan made a good point. It&#039;s the stuff they put on the meat that makes it taste good. Some say they never really liked the taste of meat to begin with, that makes it very different. Most people don&#039;t like the vegetables to begin with. I think when people focus on the unecessarily cruel means to which meat is provided, that works the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vegas Vegan made a good point. It&#8217;s the stuff they put on the meat that makes it taste good. Some say they never really liked the taste of meat to begin with, that makes it very different. Most people don&#8217;t like the vegetables to begin with. I think when people focus on the unecessarily cruel means to which meat is provided, that works the most.</p>
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		<title>By: Um</title>
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		<dc:creator>Um</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Um</title>
		<link>http://www.vegansoapbox.com/but-meat-tastes-good/comment-page-1/#comment-14068</link>
		<dc:creator>Um</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 22:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the sentiments...but no matter what or how good a cause is, I just think when trying to reach people its better to exclude words like &quot;stupid&quot; and making non-followers out to be pathetic, even if they&#039;re excuses sound lame. They don&#039;t understand or else they wouldn&#039;t disagree. On subject, long ago, humans didn&#039;t have as much options for food and many are still struggling with that, and animals eat each other in the wild. It&#039;s a natural thing, and that&#039;s an understandable reason for people eating meat, to me. However, the cruelty and disgusting things we do to poor animals these days for restaurant chains could turn anyone. People have come to abuse it...they eat for taste, not survival. I can see the world changing though. But to call out &quot;murderer&quot; or anything like that causes many people to think &quot;Wow, I agreed for a second, but talk about overreacting.&quot; because they don&#039;t understand it like that at all-people see it as a traditional and cultural thing to eat meat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the sentiments&#8230;but no matter what or how good a cause is, I just think when trying to reach people its better to exclude words like &#8220;stupid&#8221; and making non-followers out to be pathetic, even if they&#8217;re excuses sound lame. They don&#8217;t understand or else they wouldn&#8217;t disagree. On subject, long ago, humans didn&#8217;t have as much options for food and many are still struggling with that, and animals eat each other in the wild. It&#8217;s a natural thing, and that&#8217;s an understandable reason for people eating meat, to me. However, the cruelty and disgusting things we do to poor animals these days for restaurant chains could turn anyone. People have come to abuse it&#8230;they eat for taste, not survival. I can see the world changing though. But to call out &#8220;murderer&#8221; or anything like that causes many people to think &#8220;Wow, I agreed for a second, but talk about overreacting.&#8221; because they don&#8217;t understand it like that at all-people see it as a traditional and cultural thing to eat meat.</p>
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		<title>By: Sierra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 18:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t tell you how many times I&#039;ve heard the excuse &quot;it&#039;s too hard. I could never do that.&quot; Really? I was 8 years old when I decided to go vegetarian, and 13 years old when I decided to go Vegan, even though everyone around me ate meat, even though I had to become resposible for my own meals at a young age, I did it. It wasn&#039;t easy at first, but it&#039;s so natural to me now.
 
  The best advice I can give to someone trying to go Vegan: 

The first few weeks are tough, because not only are your taste buds experiencing major changes but the rest of your body is too. It takes time to get accustomed. And that&#039;s why many people think it is so hard, but after a week or so you start getting used to it, and ENJOYING your new foods. It is no longer work, it is just simple. I promise you that. Just stick to it for 2 weeks - a month and you&#039;ll see how easy it is to be a vegan, and how happy (and healthy!) you feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I&#8217;ve heard the excuse &#8220;it&#8217;s too hard. I could never do that.&#8221; Really? I was 8 years old when I decided to go vegetarian, and 13 years old when I decided to go Vegan, even though everyone around me ate meat, even though I had to become resposible for my own meals at a young age, I did it. It wasn&#8217;t easy at first, but it&#8217;s so natural to me now.</p>
<p>  The best advice I can give to someone trying to go Vegan: </p>
<p>The first few weeks are tough, because not only are your taste buds experiencing major changes but the rest of your body is too. It takes time to get accustomed. And that&#8217;s why many people think it is so hard, but after a week or so you start getting used to it, and ENJOYING your new foods. It is no longer work, it is just simple. I promise you that. Just stick to it for 2 weeks &#8211; a month and you&#8217;ll see how easy it is to be a vegan, and how happy (and healthy!) you feel.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I used to eat flesh &amp; co, I used to make abstinence of animal products (that is to eat vegan) on Lent, Advent, Ember days, Wednesdays and Fridays. I always felt sorry when Lent or Advent began, because I saw that as a privation. While shopping during the Lent, I had always felt my bowels moving, while smelling the chicken or cheese. Every Easter Sunday I had digestion problems (as I was re-eating flesh and eggs), or even puked after dinner.

Now that I am vegan, I feel rather the opposite, while shopping. The smell of cooked flesh disturbs me. So I suppose it&#039;s a matter of self-sugestion. In the past I starved for flesh on Lent, because I felt it like a bereavement of flesh, even if willingly.

After we decided we should become vegan, something happened. At my work, I saw a cooked chicken in a dish, and I know it was destinated to be thrown on the morrow. My first thought was this: «if they throw the chicken, it will polluate; if I eat it, il will poluate less», so I decided to eat it by &quot;mercy&quot;. But when I looked at it, I couldn&#039;t. I was too disgusted to act. I felt it to unnatural. So I threw it by myself, then washed my hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I used to eat flesh &amp; co, I used to make abstinence of animal products (that is to eat vegan) on Lent, Advent, Ember days, Wednesdays and Fridays. I always felt sorry when Lent or Advent began, because I saw that as a privation. While shopping during the Lent, I had always felt my bowels moving, while smelling the chicken or cheese. Every Easter Sunday I had digestion problems (as I was re-eating flesh and eggs), or even puked after dinner.</p>
<p>Now that I am vegan, I feel rather the opposite, while shopping. The smell of cooked flesh disturbs me. So I suppose it&#8217;s a matter of self-sugestion. In the past I starved for flesh on Lent, because I felt it like a bereavement of flesh, even if willingly.</p>
<p>After we decided we should become vegan, something happened. At my work, I saw a cooked chicken in a dish, and I know it was destinated to be thrown on the morrow. My first thought was this: «if they throw the chicken, it will polluate; if I eat it, il will poluate less», so I decided to eat it by &#8220;mercy&#8221;. But when I looked at it, I couldn&#8217;t. I was too disgusted to act. I felt it to unnatural. So I threw it by myself, then washed my hands.</p>
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		<title>By: The Vegas Vegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Vegas Vegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I was still eating meat, I rarely enjoyed it.  I ate it because everyone around me was eating it.  But, seeing raw meat or eating undercooked beef disgusted me.  Part of the reason I decided vegetarianism was for me (19 years ago) was that I didn&#039;t like meat all that much to begin with.  Same with going vegan - a changing process which took over a year to complete - did I REALLY &quot;like&quot; the taste of milk or did I just like wet stuff on my cereal?  

And like Bea said, it&#039;s not the taste of &quot;meat&quot; people enjoy necessarily, but all the stuff that it gets dressed up with.  So, if you like a particular sauce or garnish, why not try in top of a portabella mushroom or some tempeh instead?  I grew up in Western NY, home of the hot wings.  I love hot sauce.  I make tempeh &quot;wings&quot; that everyone goes nuts for, proving that it&#039;s not the &quot;meat&quot; itself people like, it&#039;s the hot sauce!!!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;~ Recent blog post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://thevegasvegan.blogspot.com/2009/06/food-inc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Food, Inc.&lt;/a&gt; ~&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was still eating meat, I rarely enjoyed it.  I ate it because everyone around me was eating it.  But, seeing raw meat or eating undercooked beef disgusted me.  Part of the reason I decided vegetarianism was for me (19 years ago) was that I didn&#8217;t like meat all that much to begin with.  Same with going vegan &#8211; a changing process which took over a year to complete &#8211; did I REALLY &#8220;like&#8221; the taste of milk or did I just like wet stuff on my cereal?  </p>
<p>And like Bea said, it&#8217;s not the taste of &#8220;meat&#8221; people enjoy necessarily, but all the stuff that it gets dressed up with.  So, if you like a particular sauce or garnish, why not try in top of a portabella mushroom or some tempeh instead?  I grew up in Western NY, home of the hot wings.  I love hot sauce.  I make tempeh &#8220;wings&#8221; that everyone goes nuts for, proving that it&#8217;s not the &#8220;meat&#8221; itself people like, it&#8217;s the hot sauce!!!</p>
<p><abbr><em>~ Recent blog post: <a href="http://thevegasvegan.blogspot.com/2009/06/food-inc.html" rel="nofollow">Food, Inc.</a> ~</em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Florence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You made a few good points here !

I&#039;d love my boyfriend read what you&#039;d written, because it&#039;s one of his common responses when we talk about veganism .

With  &quot;it&#039;s natural&quot; and &quot;it&#039;s too hard to give up meat&quot; who often lead to &quot;I admire you for what you do and how you manage to cope with the whole veganism thing&quot;, him and other people seem to have so stereotypic responses that it becomes a little boring.

Bea, you&#039;re right, almost nobody love the taste of unseasoned meat. And raw meat neither !
Meat is bland.
But when I was still omnivorous, the meat (I wasn&#039;t really a meat-eater except for ham or too processed to recognize flesh) I could happily eat sausage meat on steack tartare, but both well seasoned. That was very weird for my mother ! 
Now, it is weird for me too to think about it.

Thankfully, taste changes, I&#039;m a proof of that. 
I began to cook a lot uncommon (for me at least) vegetables since I&#039;ve become a vegan in training.
I love almost all of them, especially those of the cabbage family that french see as &quot;poor man vegetables&quot;.

I&#039;m convinced you can win people hearts and minds with cooking good vegan food and that&#039;s why I cook even more since I live with my bf ! Unfortunatly, there are really few veggies and fruits he likes and it&#039;s so sad (for me, for his diet etc).
Hope his tastebubs will enjoy veggie-based vegan food more often.

&quot; Taste is a trivial thing ... we can prioritize  ...&quot;
I&#039;m ok, but it&#039;s very difficult to really think about what we are doing to animals. And setting (omnivore) food aside and make a change isn&#039;t the number one priority for most people I know. 

Thank for your contribution to my reflections. 

a little almost vegan frenchie (and sorry for the grammatical or spelling mistakes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You made a few good points here !</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love my boyfriend read what you&#8217;d written, because it&#8217;s one of his common responses when we talk about veganism .</p>
<p>With  &#8220;it&#8217;s natural&#8221; and &#8220;it&#8217;s too hard to give up meat&#8221; who often lead to &#8220;I admire you for what you do and how you manage to cope with the whole veganism thing&#8221;, him and other people seem to have so stereotypic responses that it becomes a little boring.</p>
<p>Bea, you&#8217;re right, almost nobody love the taste of unseasoned meat. And raw meat neither !<br />
Meat is bland.<br />
But when I was still omnivorous, the meat (I wasn&#8217;t really a meat-eater except for ham or too processed to recognize flesh) I could happily eat sausage meat on steack tartare, but both well seasoned. That was very weird for my mother !<br />
Now, it is weird for me too to think about it.</p>
<p>Thankfully, taste changes, I&#8217;m a proof of that.<br />
I began to cook a lot uncommon (for me at least) vegetables since I&#8217;ve become a vegan in training.<br />
I love almost all of them, especially those of the cabbage family that french see as &#8220;poor man vegetables&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced you can win people hearts and minds with cooking good vegan food and that&#8217;s why I cook even more since I live with my bf ! Unfortunatly, there are really few veggies and fruits he likes and it&#8217;s so sad (for me, for his diet etc).<br />
Hope his tastebubs will enjoy veggie-based vegan food more often.</p>
<p>&#8221; Taste is a trivial thing &#8230; we can prioritize  &#8230;&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m ok, but it&#8217;s very difficult to really think about what we are doing to animals. And setting (omnivore) food aside and make a change isn&#8217;t the number one priority for most people I know. </p>
<p>Thank for your contribution to my reflections. </p>
<p>a little almost vegan frenchie (and sorry for the grammatical or spelling mistakes)</p>
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		<title>By: Bea Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bea Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response to this is usually: Yeah... but - meat is flavored with all sorts of &quot;vegetable seasons&quot;... and plant based spices and herbs.  And I also ask them if they ever ate meat unseasoned... pretty awful huh?  Well, there you go - it&#039;s the veggie stuff you like the taste of anyway!  

That usually gets people to think a bit... about what foods really do taste like...

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;~ Recent blog post: &lt;a href=&quot;http://beaelliott.blogspot.com/2009/06/x2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;About Kids Who Kill &amp; A Culture That Supports It&lt;/a&gt; ~&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response to this is usually: Yeah&#8230; but &#8211; meat is flavored with all sorts of &#8220;vegetable seasons&#8221;&#8230; and plant based spices and herbs.  And I also ask them if they ever ate meat unseasoned&#8230; pretty awful huh?  Well, there you go &#8211; it&#8217;s the veggie stuff you like the taste of anyway!  </p>
<p>That usually gets people to think a bit&#8230; about what foods really do taste like&#8230;</p>
<p><abbr><em>~ Recent blog post: <a href="http://beaelliott.blogspot.com/2009/06/x2.html" rel="nofollow">About Kids Who Kill &amp; A Culture That Supports It</a> ~</em></abbr></p>
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